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 Post subject: Alkaline water??
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:59 pm 
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Q1: What is the best unit to buy to alkalinize home water.
dean silver, m.d.


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Q2: I did a search for "alkaline water" also known in some circles as "Kagan" water and came up with like 238 "finds" none of which had much to do with "alkaline water".

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A1: Dr. Sherry Rogers, MD has authored several fantastic books on natural healing. She highly recommends an alkaline water machine sold by High Tech Health (1-800-794-5355) http://www.hightechhealth.com.
2695 Linden Drive, Boulder CO 80304

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:50 pm 
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A2: Call High Tech Health at 800-794-5355 and ask for a packet of information on their alkaline water machine. The very best in my opinion. I've had one for 7 years, wouldn't be without it.

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A3: We are the International distributors for the best rated alkaline water ionizers. We carry the LIFE Ionizers and also the Jupiter Ionizers and are the largest and oldest dealer in North America.
We carry home units, vending machines and industrial ionizers. We have a "direct dealer" program that allows Doctors and Health Practitioners to provide these high quality machines to their patients.
We just patented and are introducing a new system that uses reverse osmosis, UV, then re-mineralizes the water, then sends it thru an ionizer/alkalizer. It dispenses hot or cold water and comes in a drinking fountain style for Doctor's offices and we have counter top models for home use.
http://www.LifeIonizers.com
http://www.JupiterIonizers.com

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A4: Better Health Labs makes a unit called Alkazone I believe. You might try a search for it. I have an 800 # on my unit at home. If you can't find it I could get the number for you when I get home. Don't know how it compares with other units. Before I bought mine I did check a sample from a unit to make sure it changes the pH and it did.
Madge Chiasson, NMD


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A5: An excellent model is made by Vitaly Grossman of West Bloomfield MI Fax 1(313)203-6320.
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A6: The best ionizer I know of is the Aquarius from http://www.waterworks4u.com. It's also a lot less expensive (and better, as I understand it) than Kagen, which is sold MLM. It's the unit I use everyday, and which I recommend to my patients. The filters last about a year, and are very easily changed. Support is helpful.

This is a direct-sales company, but small commissions are paid to referrers. If you do purchase a unit, I'd appreciate your mentioning my name as referrer for your first purchase. Thanks!

Karen Boone, OMD,Lac


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A7: I have the two best Japanese water alkalizers and have sold these type of units for 12 years. Please have your people call me @ (800)426-1110.

Tell your people to buy Japanese only, as their technology is the most well proven.

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Jim Karnstedt


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A8: Buy Vichy or Saint Yorre sparkling mineral water from France both very rich in bicarbonates Richard Meldener DC DIBAK


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A9: Hi Martin,

Google "Harmony Water" and you will come up with many links. Here in the Orlando, Florida area we have Harmony Water from the company in Altamonte Springs. I drink it. Here you can purchase it in gallon bottles. One of my patients gets it for me. I think you also can purchase the equipment to make it yourself.

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A10: Alkaline water does not mean an alkaline body.
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A11: do u really want to neutralize the acid of the stomach? the acid of the stomach activates the pancreas to release enzymes and bicarb. how r u going to digest ur protein and absorb minerals!?


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16 Reasons for Drinking Alkaline pH Miracle Water(TM)

There are many measurements of water,
but the most important for determining the best water to drink are, the pH, oxidative reduction potential, or energy potential, or electron activity, molecular structure
and purity.

Assuming that most waters that humans are drinking are purified, most tap and bottled water is 10 to 20 molecules per water cluster but science has helped us to determine that the best measurements for our drinking water are the pH and purity.

The larger the molecular water cluster, the lower the electron activity. The smaller the molecular water cluster, the higher the electron activity. The reason that there is greater electron activity surrounding the smaller water cluster is because as one decreases the number of water molecules that are clustering, one increases the surface area that can now express its charge.

Currently the best waters to drink are
those with a pH of 7 or above, an electron activity in the negative millivolts, (mV) a redox of 22 or less, a water that is less than 5 molecules per cluster and ideally a monomolecular water, and a pure clean water free of organic matter.

As you may be aware, there are over a 1000 choices of commercially bottled water to
drink.

But in order to maintain a healthy body and a healthy permanent weight - to lose weight or gain weight - the water has to meet the following specifications:

1) The water must have a pH of 9+ to maintain balance when healthy and to regain health and energy or lose or gain body weight, the pH must be at least 9.5 or above while generally expressing a lower concentration of acid or proton concentration that causes the body to hold on to fat as a protection of the blood and tissues.

2) The water must have a negative ORP
(electron potential) of -1mV or above to maintain balance when healthy and to regain health and energy or lose weight or gain weight at least -250mV.

This provides sufficient electron activity to neutralize excess acids that are constantly being generated through digestion, respiration, metabolism and cellular breakdown that causes the body to gain weight if these acids are not buffered and eliminated.

3) The water must have no more than 5 or 6 molecules per water cluster, but ideally the water should be monomolecular allowing for greater cellular membrane permeability for intracellular hydration.

Masaru Emoto, a Japanese researcher and specialist in the study of microcluster water, has found that polluted or contaminated water, as well as that which is highly processed and chlorinated, produces microclusters and crystals of water that show deformities.

Conversely, pure alkaline water produces beautiful clusters with a unique and ordered variety. Emoto's research is a remarkable revelation. His photographs of polluted and alkaline pure water molecules can be viewed in his book, 'Messages from Water,' or at http://www.hado.com and http://www.hado.net, and provide additional evidence that 'water is not only a mirror reflecting our mind,' but water is 'the source of life.'

4) The water must have a redox of 22 or less which gives us an indication of the electron and proton concentrations.

5) The water must be filtered of any impurties, i.e. bacteria, yeast, mold, algae, etc.

As you drink your way to a healthy body, you will find that the single most important part of pH Miracle Living is to re-hydrate the body with high pH electron-rich pH Miracle Water. It is the easiest and quickest way to regain your health and vitality or to lose weight or gain weight.

The average person drinks about one liter of fluids per day from coffee, tea, soft drinks, food and water, all of which are over-saturated with acids or protons and can prevent you from achieving ideal health.

You will become exactly what you drink as you 'pee' your way to health.

So, at long last, after years of searching for an ideal water formulation, may I suggest that you investigate our newly released, high pH, electron-rich pH Miracle Water(TM).

I think that you will find that it affords a vastly upgraded ticket to ideal health, energy and vitality.

16 Reasons for Drinking pH Miracle Water(TM) An Electron Rich Alkaline Structured Water

1) When you first get up in the morning, drink 1 liter of electron rich alkaline pH Miracle
Water(TM) with or without the green powder. This helps to flush out your kidneys, bladder and bowels and rehydrates and energizes or recharges your body with extra electrons. Remember that energy is electrons in motion.

2) Drink at least 4 liters of electron-rich, alkaline, structured pH Miracle Water daily.
Drink one 16 ounce glass every hour or 1 liter every 2 hours. You may have to work up to this, but this should be your best-case healthy goal.

Your stomach, kidneys and bladder will be 'happy' to accommodate this effort if you keep at it with determination. If you weigh less than 120 pounds, decrease by about 20%; if you weigh 190 to 250 pounds, increase about 20%; if you weigh more than 250 pounds, increase 30%.

3) Some scientists say it is best to drink half an hour before eating and between meals. Water's
role is to bathe the cells in alkalinity with its electrons which will help prepare your body to receive food.

If you are eating a high water content meal, you may also drink with your meal. Yes, you read me right -- YOU CAN DRINK WITH YOUR MEALS -- if you are eating a high water content meal and using high pH Miracle Water(TM).

4) Drink electron-rich, alkaline, pH Miracle Water(TM) at habitual times throughout the day.
Don't wait until you are hungry or thirsty because many times when you feel hungry, your body is really thirsty.

Thirst always indicates a present state of mild dehydration.

5) Increase your drinking by drinking at least 1 liter of electron-rich, structured, pH Miracle Water(TM) for each one hour one hour of exercise or stressful mental activity.

6) Learn to listen to your body. Do you feel dehydrated? Is your mouth dry? Are you experiencing fatigue or light-headedness?
Always use electron-rich, structured, pH Miracle Water(TM) before taking any medication.

Your body is crying out for water! Over time, with healthy food, water, and detoxification, your need for medication may very well be reduced or eliminated.

7) Drink at least 1 liter per 30 pounds of weight of electron-rich, structured, pH Miracle Water(Tm) with green veggie powder or diluted fresh juices to maintain hydration during extreme weight loss, muscle building or weight gain.

8) Avoid commercial sport drinks, energy drinks, caffeinated sodas, tea, coffee, cholcolate drinks, alcohol and/or beer.

9) Drink only electron-rich, alkalikne, pH Miracle Water(TM) with or without the green powder or diluted fresh green juices.

10) End each day with 16 ounces of electron-rich, structured, alkaline pH Miracle Water(TM).

11) To help elimination if congested or constipated, drink the electron-rich, alkaline pH Miracle Water(TM) warm.

12) The health of the 70 trillion cells that make up your body must be bathed in alkalinity.

13) The Stomach needs to be alkaline at 7.2 or better so drink lots of pH Miracle Water(TM) to buffer the hydrochloric acid in the stomach!

14) You perspiration should be alkaline at 7.2 so drink lots of pH Miracle Water(TM) and sweat alkaline.

15) Remember, you must 'pee or perspire' your way to incredible health, energy, and vitality and you can speed the path dramatically by drinking pH Miracle Water(TM).

16) Finally, always remember that your body is "alkaline by design and acidic by function"(TM) so drink pH Miracle Water(TM) a live a healthy and energetic life free from all sickness and dis-ease.

For more information on pH Miracle Water(TM) or to order go to:


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Home water ionizers, which I've seen offered for sale on the internet, are just the latest twist in the ongoing effort to promote the notion that alkaline water is somehow protective of your health. The underlying idea is that you can prevent disease by balancing your body's pH. Promoters claim that alkaline water is energizing, hydrates the body more effectively than regular water, improves the taste of food when used in cooking, promotes "regularity," helps the body absorb nutrients more effectively, and on and on. I've even seen claims that it can cure everything from obesity and high blood pressure to breast cancer.

None of these claims are true. Furthermore, your body needs absolutely no help in adjusting its pH. Normally, the pH of blood and most body fluids is near seven, which is close to neutral. This is under very tight biological control because all of the chemical reactions that maintain life depend on it. Unless you have serious respiratory or kidney problems, body pH will remain in balance no matter what you eat or drink. As for water, you should consider the fact that alkaline water is common throughout the western states but to my knowledge it has not protected anyone from the diseases and disorders that occur elsewhere in the U.S.

The health claims for water ionizers and for alkaline water are bogus. Save your money.

Andrew Weil, M.D.


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