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 Post subject: Non healing wound??
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:43 pm 
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Q: I have a post op patient with a small non healing under tention wound lower abdominal area.. Not infected, serosanginous dicharge. I using hyperbaric, gary's silver . Has anyone injected growth hormone to increase granulation tissue growth locally? Which homeopathic are good? Patient is on all vitamins, enzymes, hormones and using frequency specific micreocurrent with the wound healing frequency as well as laser, magnetic, vibration and the light beam generator with ozone frequency. Drinks alkaline water, protein, etc.
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A1: Has anyone ever injected stem cells into the arterial supply of a deepwound or locally? H0OW WERE RESULTS?
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A2: Hi Dean,
I have never been disappointed in using raw honey topically for people with non-healing wounds.
I dress most of my surgical sites with raw honey - have done for past 15 years. (also works on burns, acne etc).
It must be raw in order to invite the live enzymatic action of honey (remember: honey is mildly dehydrated bee vomit... Yum!).

Raw Honey is high in substances advantageous to tissue regeneration (zinc, silica), but also, after being "cured" in a wax hexagon (WOW!!!Imagine being able to sleep on meditate in a bees wax hexagon cell -better than a pyramid!) raw honey is also potentized with the relatedforces (homeopathic?) silica.

Raw honey has tissue regeneration effects (which suggest growth hormone) in part due to its inherent nutrient package and also to the advantageous local environment which a dolop of raw honey creates at the tissue site (high H2O2 - 20 ppm - ideal fungicidal, bacterialcidal) Agreed: Topical White Sugar can kill also(used by germans to disinfect wounds in WW1 and WW2) - but raw honey offers all the cidal action of white sugar but the regeneration as well.

How to know if what you use is raw honey? A teaspoon stirred in hot water will create a bubble head (thin but like atop a glass of draft beer) which is the hydrogen peroxide being released. If these bubbles are not evident and the label says "raw" take it back and find a local beekeeper...

Honey and apitherapy is a big story (now threatened by colony collapse syndrome where the bees are dying out.
Stinging irony...

Dean, I am a beekeeper as well as MD and I use venom for many clinical challenges: in this case of non-healign wounds, I often sting at the site which seems to focus and re-orient the healing (etheric) forces which heretofore have proven inadequate.

More mundane options include stimulating wound healing with a local injection of insulin.
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Brad

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A3: Hi Dean,

I would put honey on the wound -- but not processed honey. Research has shown that unprocessed honey is full of enzymes, which are needed for healing/health. Years ago, nurses would put sugar into wounds, and they healed much more quickly than today. This was taught even when I was in nursing school. We are going backwards in many respects, in terms of healing.

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A4: Consider blood treatments with UBI or ozone. Vitamins B6, C and mineral zinc are the most essential for collagen manufacture.
If you have a sophisticated ozone machine, you could pass the gas directly over the wound to encourage healing. I will be demonstrating such techniques in a January workshop.
Helium neon laser therapy can go a long way to heal wounds.
Also, what is the diabetic/weight status of the patient?

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A5: It might help to try alternating hot and cold therapy on this wound. I have seen the hot and cold treatment work when IV antibiotics and hyperbaric oxygen treatment did not. Hot and cold can be done up to 4 times a day and takes about 20 minutes for each treatment. Here is the procedure: apply heat to the area for 3 minutes, taking care not to induce a burn. Then apply cold for 30 seconds to 1 minute. Immediately reapply the heat for an additional 3 minutes, then the cold again. Keep alternating until the heat has been applied 5 times and the cold 4 times. Always start and stop with the heat.

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A6: Has the wound been cultured for bacteria and fungi? There have been many cases in my practice in which wounds clinically show NO sign of infection and culture MRSA or routine staph aureus, and occasionally candida.
Treating the occult infection then allows the wound to heal. To enhance wound healing I use Bionect (topical hyaluronic acid), ACS spray, and although I have not tried it yet Dr. Gordon spoke of combining ASC and Quinton as a spray.
Valerie G. Davis, M.D.
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A7: Before you go into all that, first diagnose whether there is a foreign body sitting there, eg synthetic suture material!
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A8: Dear Doctor,

You might call Henry Ford Hospital in Michigan and ask them about their old Procurin wound protocol. They remove cells from the patients blood and grow them in a lab then put the material into a syringe. Then we nurses used to do wound care with it on non healing diabetic wounds. The fluid was so powerful at growing new cells that we had to be careful not to get it onto healthy tissues as those would grow as well. I don't know if its still being used or if it has evolved into a more advanced therapy.

My best. Patti Wooldridge RN, BSN


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A9: Hi Dean:

Contact Ivivi (in New Jersey). They make PEMF devices which are extraordinarily effective for wound healing (some are small and portable and can be used twice daily at home). Works even for stubborn diabetic non-healing wounds.

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A10: There exists silver impregnated gauze intended for burn victims which produce remarkable healing results according to articles I jhave seen in the past. Might be worth a try.

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A11: Age is always an important factor when discussing cases. I assume the pt is older is you are thinking about GH. I had a pt with a non healing fibular fracture (3 months and they were considering it non union-almost no callous had formed), his testosterone levels were the lowest i had seen in a 50+ year old. 6 weeks later the bone had healed with testosterone injections. I had a non healing infection on my foot from a thorn and after h2o2, UVBI all with no help finally checked my T levels and they were low, I used that and a hand held red laser and with in a 4 days the infection was gone and with in two weeks granulation tissue and healing had occurred to the point i could close the wound. there are some good studies showing IR and laser therapies work well on these kinds of things. Jeff Baird DO


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A12: Dr. Silver
Lesions do not heal without a liberal amount of essential fatty acids. You might try:

BodyBio Balance oil 2 Tablespoons bid
BodyBio Balanced PC (Phosphatidylcholine) 1 Tablespoon bid Evening Primrose oil 1 Tablespoon bid Viobin Prometol 5 capsules qd BodyBio (Dr. Horrobin's) Kirunal (high EPA) 2 capsules qd

Also try topical application of BodyBio PC

Please contact me if you have questions.
Patricia Kane, Ph.D.


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A13: Have your tried a glyconutrient or Stem cell enhancing supplement?
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A14: Any way to relieve tension - weight loss works slowly - Isokinetic tape might serve the purpose...can be left on for days...

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