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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:14 pm 
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Spasmodic vaginismus remedies?

I have young woman patient who is a newlywed and unable to have sexual relations with her husband because of a spasmodic vaginismus – so severe that it makes coition impossible. There have been short-lived improvements with a few homeopathic remedies but I have no other options to offer.

Terry Vanderheyden, ND
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:03 am 
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A1: Hi Dr Terry
This poor young lady has clearly had a bad abusive type problem in her past and is subconsciously fearful of penetration.

the Homeopathic remedy is either anacardium or sepia

The cure however needs gentle therapy where her husband must agree to work through this with her

therapy includes her ability to masturbate alone by self stimulation of her external genitalia at first just to pleasure herself and than to masturbate to orgasm.
it could take a month of these personal sessions for her to get comfortable with herself

once she is able to do that she needs to get her husband to agree to only touch her externally with hands tongues or vibrators without penetrating her vagina.
only after he can bring her to orgasm with nothing else occurring and her feeling safe with him can the next stage be accomplished

She of course has to agree to relieve him anyway that they are comfortable as long as it doesnt involve coition

She than needs to get a series of dildos of increasing diameter (the first the size of a thermometer that she can comfortably insert into her vagina and just leave it inserted while the external pleasuring continues and over time use bigger and bigger sizes that dont cause pain.

it could easily take many months and many sessions and great control and loving care on behalf of her husband.

if he doesnt cooperate, the marriage will end in divorce.

The day that she willingly sits on top of her husband with his penis inside of her while he stimulates her externally perhaps with an electric vibrator will be the day their marriage is cemented for all time.
Hopefully the husband has the patience of Job but if he wants to stay married he needs to devote the time, love and self control.

If they cant figure out how to do this, a sex therapist is definitely required

I once had a patient with this very problem during my residency that took 6 months of advising to resolve. This was way before I learned homeopathy and more than likely would go much faster with the proper remedy

Bruce H Shelton MD MD(h) DiHom FBIH
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:07 am 
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A2: Dr. Vanderheyden,

I have treated a number of these cases successfully with repeated gentle digital pressure around and inside the introitus as well as trigger point therapy of the internal piriformis and internal obturator muscles.

Frank Strehl, D.C., D.A.B.C.I.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:08 am 
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A3: Hi Terry,

If you are getting short term relief with homeopathics, then you are probably not dosing them correctly. It doesn't make sense that a homeopathic would at first work, and then stop working.
I would go back to the first remedy that worked and give it as follows: use the 200C strength and give 2 pellets orally bid, and one liquid dose bid for 7 days. Stopping if an aggravation occurs, then starting again when the aggravation passes, but this time with just the liquid doses. To make the liquid solution, put 2 pellets of the 200c into 4 oz of water in a glass bottle. Do not use distilled water.
To take the liquid solution proceed as follows: Pound the bottle forcefully on a thick book 5 times, then take 1 TBS orally - swishing it around in the mouth before swallowing.

Good luck,

Peter Glidden, ND


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A4: A: Is it physical or psychological?

Can she penetrate herself with a dildo?

Be examined digitally and with a speculum by an OB/GYN?

Achieve self- or husband's digital penetration and stimulation?

If so, there will be a psychological barrier for her husband - analysis, hypnosis.

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A5: Magnesium deficiency causes muscle spasms at various places around the body. With the condition of the newlywed, I would begin with 750 mg or more of magnesium per day. If GI distress does not allow this higher dose magnesium, one could follow Dr. Sircus methodology of using the transdermal "magnesium oil" he recommends. Or consider magnesium injections.
I should add that one can not be extra low on calcium either. Normally, we think in terms of magnesium causes dilation of muscles and calcium causes contraction. But both are needed for both functions to work. That is, magnesium relaxes but it needs some calcium to do that. And calcium contracts, but it needs some magnesium to do that. So, with VERY VERY LOW CALCIUM, even extra magnesium can't relax muscles and thus, the muscle will spasm, because spasm is the default setting for muscles, though it usually isn't a tonic spasm but an episodic spasm that comes and goes. The point is, magnesium may be the easy fix for this problem, but it needs some calcium as well. Before jumping through other exotic hoops, see if magnesium resolves the problem as the magnesium reserves get built back up over several weeks. In fact, it could resolve the problem within days.
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A6: Magnesium.

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A7: That doesn't give us much to go on. A couple possible avenues
include: candida (do a systemic yeast clean out- I often use diflucan, nystatin, probiotics and a no sugar diet), urinary crystals (they are quite sharp and can cause discomfort, though I've only seen this in a talk and haven't seen it myself), and of course past emotional events. Is it possible that allergy could play a role? possibly, I don't know.

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A8: Although I have not tried it for this condition, frequency specific microcurrent would be worth a try. Go to http://www.frequencyspecific.com to learn about it or find a practitioner. This would be an excellent modality to add to your practice.
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A9: Possibly Lobelia Herbal and homeopathic forms; indicated for muscle spasms.

She may also consider a practitioner of Pranic Healing, a form of energy medicine that works on the acupuncture and chakra system. I am certified in this and it can be done very effectively by "distant" healing, but she can also find a practitioner where she lives.)

Valerie G. Davis M.D.


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A10: I have been working with the University of California treating these types of patients for years. We have had great success using Baclofen suppositories. I will be glad to discuss treatment options anytime.

Clay Hammett, Pharm. D.
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A11: Review of the literature suggests that Psychotherapy would be beneficial I would also suggest meditation, tantric meditation, visualizations Sex theapists have used progressive dialation directed by the wife applied by the husband. aka sex toys, or massage Physical therapy, interferential therapy hitting the sacrum and the pelvic floor or sacrum, pelvic floor and lower tummy and Kd area or acupuncture Herbally try the antispasmotic female remedies, mother's cordial herbs, Cramp bark, Black Haw, Macrotis [black cohosh], Leonorus, Mitchellia, Blessed Thistle etc.
American Skullcap, Valarian and Damania
Tobacco applied topically to the cervix is used to relax the cervix in childbirth, although not a strong recommendation.

What were the homeopathic modalities > and <?

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