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 Post subject: Cold sores
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:09 pm 
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Q: I have a patient who has recurring cold sores on her lips. Martin Gallagher, D.C., M.D.

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A1: I'm surprised she's constipated in spite of being a vegetarian and colonics?

She may be having too little nutrition, exacerbated by too much cleansing...weakening her immune system and resistance to stress.

Menses at 56? One would anticipate at least perimenopause.

She has done some E-stim but how about Rife machine, and/or ion footbath? Further detox might include FIR sauna.

There are other homeopathic approaches, including the DETOX formula, no doubt Dr. Shelton will weigh in?

Dr. Gordon has numerous immune boosting and chelation protocols.

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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A2: Try euphorbium spray (now called sinusin) from heel

Also always take grippe heel when taking engystol They are study proven to work together against virus

Euphorbium is study proven to be viracidal

Bruce H Shelton MD MD(h) DiHom FBIH
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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A3: Whenever I see the term "homeopathics" I suspect that what the patient had is not classical homeopathy. As this is clearly a constitutional case, classical homeopathy would be indicated. There appears to be lots of attempts at supression in the case with the more allopathic treatment. I would suggest stopping everything and find a classical homeoapth who can clear out the case and find a single high potency remedy that will cure.
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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A4: make sure she is taking enough lysine = 3000-5000mg qd...this has virtually always worked for me...

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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A5: I have had some success with Herpes using I.M. AMP 2 cc (adenosine monophosphate: Myoden/Legere Pharmaceuticals) with B12 (hydroxy- or methyl-cobalamin), 1 cc (1000 mcg.). Best to do daily or minimum q.o.d. for 1-2 weeks; then weekly, with oral AMP/B12 (My-B-Tabs) as daily maintenance. You also might try NAC, which has significant anti-viral activity.

J. Anderson, M.D.


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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A6: Hormone levels start to decline around age 27 and this is when we start to see diseases of immune compromise. In women, as the number of anovulatory cycles increase progesterone levels decline. This results in a relative estrogen dominance. Estrogen causes an increase in thyroid binding globulin resulting in the relative hypothyroidism as seen in pregnancy. This is coupled with the age related thyroid decline. One of the functions of thyroid hormone is conversion of beta carotene into vitamin A, critical for immune function against viral entities. As this patient's case history points out, lifestyle choices must be complemented with bio-identical HRT to maintain optimum functioning. She needs thyroid and progesterone replacement at a minimum. Loading with vitamin A will prevent future breakouts.

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 Post subject: Cold sores
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:18 pm 
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A7: Dear Dr.,
We all realise the relative resistance in suggesting accurate homeopathics, from an impersonal distance. There are however, some interesting correlations with nat mur, in about 200C, infrequently dispensed. Among others, there are periodicity, sun aggravation, stress, menses. The mind symptoms are of course, pre-eminent. Mind symptoms agreeing, my patients have responded well to this nifty weapon, nat mur.
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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A8: Other tx you may want to consider: Cats claw (TOA free), raw honey on a gauze pad soak for 15 min 4x/day, Monolaurin, look for food allergies, Vit A 50,000 iu (mycelized), selenium, and 50/50 solution of DMSO/SSKI applied topically 3X/day Frederick Hult DC PhD DACBI, DACBN


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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A9: With an holistic approach to medicine, I treat the patient and not the disease(s). I have frequently offered members a copy of my article now entitled NATURAL MEDICINE. It has recently been published in two parts in the Journal of the American Naturopathic Association along with my photos on the covers. It will outline for you a systematic way to diagnosis the patient's problems. Illness is multi factorial and there are often many factors on different levels of the being - mental, emotional, spiritual and physical. You may request a copy of NM by sending me your complete name and email address.

Hypothyroidism is a common denominator of illness. In my patient population I would estimate 90% or more have low body temperature and signs and symptoms of hypothyroidism. I have been a student of the Late Broad Barnes, MD, PhD and the current guru Denis Wilson, MD. You can find out about Wilson's Temperature Syndrome at his web site http://www.wtsmed.com. When I read above "constipation" I immediately thought of low thyroid function. It often underlies chronic and or recurrent infections and conditions like the cold sores.

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A10: You might try the LazR Pulse Laser from Dr. Graham 888-696-6532. I have seen it dramatically shorten the course of a herpetic outbreak. Also, try injecting ozone intradermally. I might hurt a lot, but it could disrupt the virus.

Robert Jay Rowen, MD
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 Post subject: Cold sores
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Dear Dr. Gallagher,

Herpes virus is managed easily with Extracorporeal O3 Therapy. Her sunlight sensitivity if severe would rule out using UV/O3 therapy together. I have seen many cases resolve with this treatment. O3 treatment of blood works 95% as well as UV/O3 together. Usually a series of treatments is required.

My best. Patti Wooldridge RN, BSN


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A12: The best way to reduce the viral load, is oxygen/ozone therapy with major autohemotherapy with maybe a mix of minor autohemotherapy. These procedures work very well. In addition if a outbreak occurs direct exposure placed adjacent to the lesion at 27mircograms per cc for a exposure time of 30 - 60 seconds and then apply ozonated olive oil. If you have no acess to the gas the oil will stand on its own. A recent study showed were ozonated olive oil was atleast effective if not more so than any of the antiviral ointments with no side effects. A good source for OOO is ozoneservices.com

Phil Mollica MS,DMD,NMD


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A13: OZONATED OLIVE OIL WORKS WONDERS OR IF IN THE MOUTH OZONATED WATER ALSO. DAVID J. KRIZMAN, MD


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 Post subject: Cold sores
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A14: Not tough at all! Give IV dilute hydrogen peroxide treatments. Give only one per week for ten weeks. No I won't publish the formula. Take a one day course in oxidative medicine and learn how to mix and give peroxide properly.
GORDON JOSEPHS, MD(H)
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